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The "day" of the begetting
Query for the Month
of November 2002
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Which day did He mean??
We find this statement in the context of a chapter which is setting out the Biblical proof that Jesus is THE Son of God, and as such can be worshipped as God by humans. However, we know that Jesus did not look for worship while here on earth in His human nature so when did this change?
The thought is quoted from an Old Testament source where the conditions prevailing on that “day” are set out for us.
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers [of the church] take counsel together [a church/state union], against the LORD, and against His Anointed, saying, 3 “Let us break Their bands asunder, and cast away Their cords from us.”
4 He that sits in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall He speak to them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure [saying] 6 “Yet have I set My King upon My holy hill of Zion.”
7 [Then the King speaks] “I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to Me, ‘You are My Son; this day have I begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I shall give You the heathen for Your inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron [the rod of love which is the strongest force in the universe]; You shall dash them [the rejecters of that love] in pieces like a potter's vessel.”
10 Be wise now therefore, O you kings: be instructed, you judges [religious guides] of the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss [worship] the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.
Here we see that when the decree is made the leaders of the church and the heathen, are arrayed against Christ and would like to free themselves of what they perceive as His “bondage”.
Next we move on to where the Spirit of God places this prophecy, for that is what it is, written by David one thousand years before it occurred.
29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of Him, they took Him down from the tree, and laid Him in a sepulchre. 30 But God raised Him from the dead: 31 and He was seen many days of them which came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem [His disciples], who are His witnesses to the people.
32 And we declare to you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made to the fathers, 33 God has fulfilled the same to us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, “You are My Son, this day have I begotten you.”
Thus, under Inspiration, Paul definitely places the fulfilling of the prophecy on the day on the resurrection of Jesus. As Jesus Himself has said in the second Psalm, verse 7, those words were spoken to Him, and now we see that was when He emerged from the tomb.
Some time prior to this it was recorded:
23 And being let go, they [Peter and John and some others] went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, “LORD, You are God, which have made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: 25 who by the mouth of Your servant David have said,
27 “For of a truth against Your holy child Jesus, whom You have anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, 28 for to do whatsoever Your hand and Your counsel determined before to be done.”
29 “And now, LORD, behold their threatenings: and grant to Your servants, that with all boldness they may speak Your word, 30 by stretching forth Your hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of Your holy child Jesus.”
31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spoke the word of God with boldness.
It is clear in this Scripture that the people of God applied the second Psalm to the time of Jesus and to the Jewish and Roman persecution of Him. Although they call Him the “holy child” their reference to Herod and Pilate places the timing squarely on the days of the crucifixion and the resurrection. The blessing of the Spirit in Pentecostal power underlines the truthfulness of what they were saying.
Thus the time when the Father called His Son and said, “This day have I begotten You” refers to His standing forth in power after the resurrection and not His literal birth in the stable, or His separation from His Father in ages past. So why that particular day?
While on earth after His birth He was indeed the Prophet of God as Moses tells us.
15 [Moses said] The LORD your God will raise up to you a Prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers and sisters, like to me; to Him you shall hearken. . .
However, on the day of the resurrection He became more than a Prophet, for He added to His duties that of Priest.
1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: . . .
4 And no man takes this honour to himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made a High Priest; but He that said to Him, “You are My Son, today have I begotten You.”
6 As He says also in another place, “You are a Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.”
What made the change? Why does the Father call Him His Son in a special way on THAT day? Because what He did that day showed Him to be a special Person, unlike any other in the universe. It is written:
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God, . . .
3 Concerning His Son Jesus Christ our LORD, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 and [also] declared to be the Son of God with power, . . . by the resurrection from the dead.
The “God” that resurrected Jesus Christ was Himself!! It was His walking out of the grave that called forth the statement from the Father’s lips. Jesus, the Son of God and man, divine and human, had walked out of the tomb under His own power thus showing that the gates of hell (the grave) could not hold Him. He had said that He would do this, and He did. By doing so He proved that He had life in Himself, not borrowed or derived from another. He was not a created being.
17 Therefore [for this reason] does My Father love Me, because I lay down My life, that I might take it again. 18 No man takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN. This commandment [permission] have I received of My Father.
Jesus was both Prophet and Priest while on earth. But He was Prophet first BEFORE the crucifixion, and the Priesthood was added AFTER it on the day of the resurrection. "THAT DAY" then was the day of the resurrection.
In the same way, He will one day in the future be accepted as the King of the universe and every knee shall bow to Him again. Romans 14:11.
Who wants to add (or subtract!) from these thoughts? I won't argue as I have stated, but I will publish your Scriptures so that we may review all the words of God on the subject.
Next thought. To be discussed from December 1st 2002.
Just what is the kingdom of God?
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