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The ten toes versus the ten horns

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of December 2001


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Let us look at the various verses which are the subjects of the question and compare them.


Daniel 2:

41 And whereas you saw the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom [Satan’s] shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with miry [wet] clay. 42 And as the [ten] toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom [which near the end of time is made up of feet as well as toes] shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the [first] mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God has made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation of it sure.


With these words we are told that at the end of the statue, which is a picture of the end of human time, there will be two feet which eventually divide into ten sections. The metals, gold, silver, brass and iron represent the major political systems of Satan's kingdom (verses 37-42) and the clay, which is introduced in the last days (v42), is a foreign substance which causes the downfall of the statue when the stone from the mountain hits it. The two feet represent the two major political divisions in Satan’s kingdom today, the east and west of this world with their religious differences. The very last situation is where the world consists of ten religious groups held together lightly by the political situation (clay by iron) for clay represents churches in the Bible. Isaiah 64:8.

However, when we move on to the ten horns of Daniel chapter seven, we find an entirely different situation. There the horns are on the head of a creature.


Daniel 7:

8 I considered the [ten] horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn [making eleven in total], before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots [they disappeared completely]: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. [Thus we now have SEVEN horns plus a "little" one which becomes a mighty one.]….

24 [The angel told Daniel] ... the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings [or kingdoms] that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse [different] from the first, and he shall subdue three kings [out of the ten, so that there will only seven left].

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it to the end.


This is obviously NOT the end of the world, because the new horn, the "little" one, carries on after he has disposed of three of the ten. Then he grows and speaks great words against God's way, persecutes the saints etc. until the judgment. As most Protestants have taught, this was fulfilled by the Roman Catholic system which operated from 538 to 1798AD. As the scripture records, the saints were to be released from his power after the "time, times and the dividing of time", and then the judgment would begin. At that time the "consuming" would occur.

So then the ten horns of this chapter cannot be the same as the ten toes. Here they represent the nations of Europe BEFORE the Papacy came into existence in 538AD. Three of those nations were totally eradicated by the Roman Catholic power of the time – they were "plucked up by the roots". In the statue vision, the time of Catholic supremacy, which is sometimes called "the middle ages", is indicated by one of the iron legs. The days after 1798 are portrayed by the turning of the ankles and entering into the feet.

However, when we turn to the ten horns of Revelation we see another situation again.


Revelation 17:

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying to me, "Come hither; I will show to you the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters: 2 with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication [spiritual adultery], and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine [false doctrines] of her fornication."

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns….

12 And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength to the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


In this case these ten horns do exist in the last days when they shall join with "the beast", the political systems of this world, for a short period of time called by the angel "one hour". These ten horns are the same as the "extra" material, the clay in the metal statue, which makes them a picture of the religious kingdoms of Satan too. Both horns and the clay in the toes represent the religions of the world uniting with the governments of the world in one temporary alliance against the kingdom of God. The picture shown by the ten toes is that they will not be able to stay together for long because their union will be like wet clay clinging to the iron at first, but as time goes by and the strength of religion "dries up" (Revelation 16:12) they will separate again for the final events of the "stone" arriving. In Revelation the horns (the people) are said to "hate the whore [the religions], and burn her with fire". Revelation 17:16.


The ten toes of the statue of Daniel 2 are the same as the ten horns on the seven heads of the beast in Revelation 17, but they are NOT the same as the ten horns on the single head of the beast in Daniel chapter seven.

This means that the ten toes of Daniel 2 and ten horns of Revelation 17 are pictures of the group of religious systems that join the political ones in the last days of history. However, the ten horns of Daniel 7 are pictures of the ten nations which occupied the area of Europe BEFORE the papacy arose in 538AD.

Who wants to add (or subtract!) from these thoughts? I won't argue as I have stated, but I will publish your Scriptures so that we may review all the words of God on the subject.


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