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The Passover and Burnt Offering

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January 2013

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In this reply the old-fashioned words of the KJV have been modernised, and in some instances, the man-made punctuation has been altered for greater understanding.  Some of the comments are adapted from books in my library.  No recognition is given because they are not intended as authorities, but are used because they express my understanding clearly.  All the ideas expressed in this article, right or wrong, are my own.   


In this article the old-fashioned words of the KJV have been modernised, and in some instances, the man-made punctuation has been altered for greater understanding.  Some of the comments are adapted from books in my library.  No recognition is given because they are not intended as authorities, but are used because they express my understanding clearly.  All the ideas expressed in these readings, right or wrong, are my own.   

 

Query:   

Exodus 29:

38 Now this is that which you shall offer upon the [brass] altar [in the courtyard]; two lambs of the first year day by day continually. 39 The one lamb you shall offer in the morning [at 9am, the 3rd hour, the first quarter of the sun’s transit]; and the other lamb you shall offer at even [at 3pm, the 9th hour, the third quarter]:

40 and with the one lamb a tenth deal [1/10 ephah] of flour [by weight about 4lbs or nearly 2kgs] mingled with the fourth part of a hin of beaten oil [just under a litre]; and the fourth part of a hin of wine for a drink offering.

41 And the other lamb you shall offer at even, and shall do thereto according to the meat [flour and oil] offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire to the LORD.   

42 This shall be a continual burnt offering throughout your generations at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD: where I will meet you, to speak there to you. 43 And there I will meet with the children of Israel, and the tabernacle shall be sanctified by My glory.

There seems to be some confusion over the personal offerings which were required in the Old Testament sanctuary system, and those which were offered on behalf of the nation.  Was the lamb which was continually burning on the altar a picture of the death of Jesus, and therefore a picture of salvation?

 

Answer:

We cannot start a discussion of the Old Testament ceremonies without first looking in the New Testament where Jesus is called the Passover Lamb, for it is this ritual which was the picture of personal salvation. 

Paul wrote:

“Your glorying is not good.  Know you not that a little leaven [yeast] leavens [spreads through] the whole lump?  [Allow God to] purge out therefore the old leaven [the old life], that you may be a new lump, as you are [now to be] unleavened. 

For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: therefore let us keep the feast [spiritually], not with old [physical] leaven [yeast], neither with the [spiritual] leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth”.  1 Corinthians 5:6-8.

Although we are not now to keep the feast literally, we can look to it and learn the lessons of justification from it.  First, the lamb was killed, cooked and eaten outside of the tabernacle IN THE HOMES OF THE PEOPLE, for it was to be available for all who wanted it.  It was shared among families so that it was all eaten in one meal.  In the same manner it was ALWAYS treated as if it was ONE lamb for everybody, but the only males who were allowed to eat of it were those who had already been circumcised.  (Women did not need to have a physical reminder of their attitude.)  A young person could fully partake of it for the first time in their own right when they had had a twelfth birthday, and after that it was an anniversary or remembrance each year for them, as well as for the nation.  (Luke 2:40-42.)

Let’s have a quick look at the ritual:

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Exodus 12:

2 [God said] This month [our Mar/Apr] shall be to you the beginning of months:

it shall be the first month of the year to you [so it was a picture of a new beginning].

 3 Speak you to all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month [just before full moon] they shall take to them every man a lamb [it was pre-chosen], according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for a house: 4 and if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next to his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb [it was all to be consumed in one meal].

5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: you shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: 6 and you shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month [full moon in spring]:

and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening [after the time of the evening sacrifice, 3pm, so that it could be prepared and eaten for the evening meal].

7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses [thereby making the sign of a cross], wherein they shall eat it. [Showing the extent of the “pass over” or “covering”, for it was house by house, family by family, and still is, as well as individually.  Consider Joshua 24:15. ]

[What the LORD would like to do is to extend that covering village by village, town by town, nation by nation until all the world is regained.  But He has an enemy who is continually pulling down His work, and so the battles rage.  See Revelation 12:7-12. Consider what happened to Job – first it was his animals (his wealth), then it was his children, and lastly, himself who felt the effects of his transgressions.  He confessed in chapter 42:6.]

8 And they [all the Israelites and not just the firstborn] shall [each individually] eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs [vegetables] they shall eat it. 9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden [boiled] at all with water, but roast with fire [thoroughly cooked, to show the persecution]; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof. 10 And you shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and [if for any reason there are leftovers] that which remains of it until the morning you shall burn with fire [on the hearth, for it was not to be eaten twice, for salvation is a once in a lifetime occurrence].

11 And thus shall you eat it; with your loins girded [clothes on], your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste [ready to go somewhere]: it is the LORD's passover. 12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and [at midnight] will [allow Satan and his rebel angels to] smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute [have to allow] judgment [because they have rejected My protection and want their own way]: I am the LORD [of fairness].

13 And the [lamb’s] blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where you are: and when I see the blood, I will pass [hover] over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite [have to allow the smiting of] the land of Egypt.

[Satan and his angels came to strike a blow against Israel, but when he was frustrated in his attempt, he turned on his own people (the firstborn who were his priests in Egypt) and destroyed them in his anger.]

14 And this day shall be to you for a memorial; and you shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; you shall keep it a feast by an ordinance [ritual] for ever. [From sunset to sunup represents Satan’s time of dominance in this world.]

15 [The following] seven days shall you eat unleavened bread; even the first day you shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eats leavened bread from the first day [the 14th] until the seventh day [the 21st], that soul shall be cut off from Israel [for leaven is a symbol of all-over sinfulness and indicates a rejecting soul]  . . .

[This does not mean that in the genuine penitents there will not be any ACTIONS of sin from here on, but it does mean that the STATE of sinfulness is gone.  The “dough” for the bread is no longer “inflated”, but is still edible when cooked.]

18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even [which to us is the evening of the 13th for their day started at sunset, while ours starts at midnight], you shall eat unleavened bread, until the twenty-first day of the month at even. 19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eats that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land . . . [this is repeated for emphasis because it is important that we get it right.]

22 And you shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood [of the lamb] that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning [we must stay under the LORD’s protection in order to be saved]. 23 For the LORD will pass through to [see Satan] smite the Egyptians; and when He sees the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts [indicating your request], the LORD will pass [hover] over the door, and will not suffer [allow] THE DESTROYER to come in to your houses to smite you [but many still blame God for the destruction!] . . .

43 And the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance [rule] of the passover: There shall no stranger [non-Christian] eat thereof: 44 but every man's servant that is bought for money, when you have circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof [for he has become part of your family by adoption.  It was like baptism into the church today].

45 A foreigner and a hired servant [a daily worker from outside] shall not eat thereof . . .

48 And when a stranger [foreigner] shall sojourn with [or live near] you, and will [or wants to] keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised [that’s the purpose of the 10th day], and then let him come near and keep it [on the 14th]; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof [for the “old heart” must first go before the “new life” comes in.  See Romans 6:1-7].

49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and to the stranger that sojourns among you [then and now].

[“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ [and become Christians]. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus.  And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise”.  Galatians 3:27-29.

Paul wrote: “. . . I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; even the mystery which has been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to His saints: to whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: whereunto I also labour, striving according to His working, which works in me mightily”.   Colossians 1:25-29.

“Moreover, brothers [and sisters], I would not that you should be ignorant, how that all our fathers [who were also Abraham’s seed] were under the cloud [which concealed the LORD during the exodus], and all passed through the [Red] sea; and were all baptized to [by] Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and did all eat the same spiritual meat [food]; and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed [went with] them: and that Rock was Christ”.  1 Corinthians 10:1-4.]

50 Thus did all the children of Israel; as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

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This ritual began on the night of the day the Israelites left “the slavery of the land of Egypt” (which had represented sin’s power over them in their natural state) and commenced their trek to the Promised Land of freedom as the children of God. 

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Romans 6:

1 What shall we say then? Shall we [as the children of God] continue in sin, that grace may abound?  2 God forbid.  How shall we, that are “dead” to sin, live any longer therein?  3 Know you not, that so many of us as were baptized [or circumcised] into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection: 

6 knowing this, that our “old man” is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin [as a slave]. 7 For he [she] that is dead is freed from sin.   

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him . . .

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It was the ONLY sacrifice asked for by God and was not a waste of a life because the animal’s flesh was eaten by all the family as their dinner for that day.  But this was not the start of the sacrificial system – that commenced in the Garden of Eden because the sacrifice of Christ for humanity began there!

Right there immediately after Adam and Eve had sinned the LORD requested of them that they each kill and completely burn a lamb as an indicator that they knew that their salvation had cost the Son of God part of His life, and that they had in effect, “killed” Him.  All that their Saviour did was use the skins of the animals to represent His “robe of righteousness” which He had freely given them.  “To Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them”.  Genesis 3:21.  This was in place of their robes of light which had disappeared when they sinned and they became aware that they were naked. Genesis 3:10.

At first they burnt the animal, then in Moses’ time they ate it.  But it is the ONLY God requested sacrifice.

Peter tells us: “And if you call on the Father, who without respect of persons judges according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear [with a healthy reverence for righteousness]: forasmuch as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold [or good works], from your vain conversation [conduct] received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood [death] of Christ [the Son of God], as of a [Passover] Lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily was foreordained [decided on] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest [made apparent] in these last times for you, who by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God”.  1 Peter 1:17-21.

God has only ever asked for ONE offering of ONE animal ONCE in a lifetime, all the others have been at the request of His professed followers. The annual repetition of the Passover ritual was necessary in the days of Moses because of the faulty memory of humans by that time, and also because of the Pagan (non-Christian) idea that “more is better” which had crept into the ways of the people of God over the centuries. 

Up until then the complete “burning” of the animal had been sufficient to remind them of all the details of the divine sacrifice, but during the exodus it became necessary to greatly expand the fine points to make them more available to their human minds which had been degraded during their sojourn in Egypt.  This was one of the reasons that God agreed to the request for a sanctuary system like the Pagan Egyptian ones.  (See Exodus 25:8-9; Jeremiah 7:21-24.)   He, of course, modified the rituals to teach the real truth and not the half truths mixed with lies which those systems used.

In the Passover the circumcision and the eating of the lamb show clearly that each individual was to have something removed from their lives and the vacuum replaced with some one else’s life BEFORE they could come to the sanctuary for a personal journey with the LORD.  (Hebrew children were circumcised on the eighth day of life (Leviticus 12:3), for they were half-way through the system by virtue of their birth.)

This is a picture of JUSTIFICATION leading to SANCTIFICATION. 

Only after eating the Passover lamb were they ready for the Book of the Law (Leviticus) which sets out the manner of approach within “the hangings of the court”, which hanging of white linen represents the robe of righteousness given with the ingesting of the lamb.  So it was only a “Christian” living within the “robe” who rightly came to make an offering in the courtyard, and the first three offerings which that book presents have nothing to do with actions of sin, or even the state of sin which had ruled in the old life. (There are seven offerings in total.) 

The first three concerned only the new life and the submission of the born-again follower.

Regarding that robe of righteousness, it is written, “There is one body [one church], and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling; one LORD, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. But to every one of us is given grace [the robe] according to the measure of the gift of Christ”.  Ephesians 4:4-7.  Job says, “I put on righteousness, and it clothed me: my judgment [experience at rebirth] was as a robe and a diadem [a crown]”.  Job 29:14.

The “one LORD” mentioned in the text is the LORD God of Genesis 2:4, who was the Word of the Creator. 

“These are the generations [beginnings] of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens [“He spoke and it was done”, Psalm 33:9], and every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.  But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.  And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed”.  Genesis 2:4-8. 

And in another place: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

In Him was life; and the life was the light of men . . . That was the true Light, which lights every man that comes into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.  He came to His own [people], and [most of His] His own received Him not.  But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: which were [re]born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.  John [the Baptist] bare witness of Him, and cried, saying, ‘This was He of whom I spoke, He that comes after me is preferred before me: for He was before me’. And of His fulness have all we received, and grace for grace”.  John 1:1-16.

The Father “thought”; the Son “spoke the thought”; the Spirit “acted on” the word.

Now let’s look at the first of the three offerings of Leviticus:

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Leviticus 1:

1 And the LORD called to Moses, and spoke to him out of the tabernacle of the congregation [the first room of the tabernacle], saying, 2 speak to the children of Israel, and say to them, If any man of you bring an offering to the LORD, you shall bring your offering of the cattle, even of the herd, and of the flock [into the courtyard].

3 If his offering be a BURNT sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish [a bullock]: he shall offer it OF HIS OWN VOLUNTARY WILL at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD [this was not compulsory].   

4 And he shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering [as a symbol that it stood for him (or her)]; and it shall be accepted for him to make [an] atonement for him.  [It is important to note that, unlike humanity, the LORD has no gender prejudice, and we can read “she” where we find “he”.]   

[Speaking of a female who had given birth to a new life, The LORD said, “And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year FOR A BURNT OFFERING, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove FOR A SIN OFFERING, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, to the priest: who shall offer it before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood.  This is the law for her that has born a male or a female.  

And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtle[dove]s, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean”.  Leviticus 12:6-8.  It was only because of the hardness of the male hearts and their desire for exclusiveness that eventually women were barred from the ceremonies!  Consider Matthew 19:7-9.]

5 And he [she] shall kill the bullock before the LORD [showing in picture form the giving up of his/her own life in dedication to the LORD]: and the priests, Aaron's sons [representing the Son of God], shall bring the blood [the evidence of death], and sprinkle the blood round about upon [the side of] the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation [making a public declaration on behalf of the offerer, and pouring the remainder down the drain]. 6 And he [the offerer] shall flay the burnt offering [to drain out the blood], and cut it into his pieces [that’s his/her part]

7 And the sons of Aaron the priest shall put fire upon the altar, and lay the wood in order upon the fire: 8 and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall lay the parts, the head, and the fat, in order upon the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar: 9 but his inwards and his legs shall he [the priest] wash in water [God does the cleaning]: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour to the LORD [that’s God’s part].

10 And if his [the Israelite’s] offering be of the flocks, namely, of the sheep, or of the goats, for a burnt sacrifice; he shall bring it a male without blemish. 11 And he shall kill it on the side of the altar northward before the LORD [on a table, not the altar, Ezekiel 40:39-43]: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall sprinkle his blood round about upon [the sides of] the altar.

12 And he [the offerer] shall cut it into his pieces, with his head and his fat: and the priest shall lay them in order on the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar: 

13 But he [the priest] shall wash the inwards and the legs with water: and the priest shall bring it all, and burn it upon the altar: it is a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour to the LORD [because it is a co-operation between God and man].

14 And if the burnt sacrifice for his offering to the LORD be of fowls, then he shall bring his offering of turtledoves, or of young pigeons. 15 And the priest shall bring it to the altar, and wring off his head, and burn it on the altar; and the blood thereof shall be wrung out at the side of the altar: 16 and he shall pluck away his crop with his feathers [like the skin], and cast it beside the altar on the east part, by the place of the ashes [because it is not required in the symbolism]: 17 and he shall cleave it with the wings thereof, but shall not divide it asunder: and the priest shall burn it upon the altar, upon the wood that is upon the fire: it is a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour to the LORD.   

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The individual “burnt” offering joined that which was already burning on the brass altar (the daily or continual offering), for this dedication ceremony was in line with that of Christ Himself, who had pledged with His Father and the universe that He would take the time and spend the effort to save those of humanity who would accept His guidance and help.

The donation of a bull, a sheep or a goat, a turtledove or a pigeon as a “burnt” offering by a “Christian” human all represented the laying of the new life on the altar of sacrifice in thankfulness for the gift of life.  Which animal to use was determined by the worldly wealth of the offerer, or by their valuation of the gift. 

This was what had occasioned the promise of Hannah and allowed God to use Samuel as His prophet for so long.  “So Hannah rose up after they had eaten in Shiloh, and after they had drunk [their evening meal] . . . And she vowed a vow, and said, ‘O LORD of hosts, if You will indeed look on the affliction of Your handmaid, and remember me, and not forget Your handmaid, but will give to Your handmaid a man child, then I will give him to the LORD all the days of his life, and there shall no razor come upon his head [he was dedicated as a Nazarite, Numbers 6:1-5]”.  1 Samuel 1:9-11. 

She gave the reality, of which the sanctuary service ritual was a picture.

We can now look at the flour, the oil and the wine which accompanied the “burnt offering”.

It is of little use to offer our new lives to God unless we are willing to use with it all the material things that He has given us.  Although not eaten by the people like the Passover meal (a portion of it was burnt with the animal, or poured on the ground), this group of items also represented the rest of a meal which was given to God.  In real life He decides when and where we are to use it for the benefits of others.

It didn’t have to be just food, of course, for some of us have other talents given by God which we can offer back to Him, such as physical abilities, mental skills, and emotional aptitudes as in poetry and song.  Whatever we have and give the LORD appreciates as only a Parent can.

There was a flour offering which was eaten:

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Leviticus 6:

14 And this is the law [the particular rules] of the meat [food] offering: [any one of] the sons of Aaron shall offer it before the LORD, before the altar. 15 And he shall take of it his handful [the sample], of the flour of the meat [food] offering, and of the oil thereof, and all the frankincense which is upon the meat [food] offering, and shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour, even the memorial of it, to the LORD.

16 And the remainder thereof shall Aaron and his sons [the other priests] eat: with unleavened bread shall it be eaten in the [a] holy place; in [a special place in] the court of the tabernacle of the congregation they shall eat it [not in the building]

17 It shall not be baked with leaven. 

I have given it to them for their portion of My offerings made by fire; it is most holy, as is the sin offering, and as the trespass offering. 18 All the males among the children of Aaron shall [ritually] eat of it [like the Passover lamb]. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations concerning the offerings of the LORD made by fire [those which are burnt up]: every one that touches them shall be holy.  

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There was one more important point to be noted regarding this offering (for the two were joined together as one in the ritual):

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Leviticus 7:8-10.

“And the priest that offers any man's burnt offering, even the priest shall have to himself the skin of the burnt offering which he has offered. [The Son of God used it to cover Adam and Eve in the Garden. Genesis 3:21.] 

And all the meat [food] offering that is baked in the oven, and all that is dressed in the fryingpan, and in the pan, shall be the priest's that offers it.  And every meat [food] offering, mingled with oil, and [or] dry, shall all the sons of Aaron have, one as much as another”. [The absence of spiritual understanding did not prohibit the acceptance of the gift.]

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So there we have it: if we really understand the blessing He has given us in the second chance, we will not consider anything to be too good to give back to Him.    

Conclusion:

It should now be clear that the Passover lamb (“which takes away the sin of the world”, John 1:29), and which occurred only once a year, and the lamb which was burning on the brass altar every day and all day and night, were two very different pictures of the real work of the Lamb of God. 

In fact, the voluntary “burnt offering” represented the dedication of the new life – (the rededication of the reborn!) and it required all the possessions of the offerer to be used or not as the LORD decided.  But the daily burnt offering represented first of all the offering of the Son of God’s life to sanctify the people, and secondly, the dedication of the nation to Him.

So it is written of the picture:

“But God commends [shows] His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ “died” for us [as did the Son of God].  Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED by His blood [“death”], we shall be saved from wrath [and temptation] through Him.  For if, when we were enemies [rebels], we were reconciled to God by the “death” of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.  And not only so, but we also joy in God through our LORD Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the [an] atonement”.  Romans 5:8-11.


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Jesus, when He had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the [Holy] Ghost [and died at 3pm on Friday].  And, behold, the [second] veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after His resurrection [on Sunday morning], and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 

 

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