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Giants in those days

Query for the Month

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July 2009

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Query:               

Genesis 6:4  

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.   

 Who were the giants of those days? 

 

Answer:

“There were giants” is a reference to the fact that everything and everyone were generally bigger in the days before the Flood.  The ancient/ bones of dinosaurs and men, and even their footprints show us that. They perished in the Flood but their genes were obviously in Noah and his family for they are still among us today.  A few of the tallest humans were shown in a TV programme recently and some were seven foot six to eight feet tall.

It is also written that in the days of the Israelite invasion of Canaan (about 900 years AFTER the Flood), ten of the twelve spies who searched out the land came back and started a riot.  “And Caleb [one of the good guys] stilled the people before Moses, and said, ‘Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it’.  But the men that went up with him said, ‘We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we’.  And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched to the children of Israel, saying, ‘The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eats up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.   And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight’.”   Numbers 13:30-33.

Another version says: “31 But the others said, "We can't attack those people; they're way stronger than we are." 32 They spread scary rumors among the People of Israel. They said, "We scouted out the land from one end to the other—it's a land that swallows people whole.  Everybody we saw was huge. 33 Why, we even saw the Nephilim giants (the Anak giants come from the Nephilim). Alongside them we felt like grasshoppers. And they looked down on us as if we were grasshoppers." Numbers 13:31-33.  (The Message translation.)

Not only were they physically larger than men of today, but their minds were also well developed for God calls them, “men of renown”, meaning other men looked up to them.  When some of the followers of God before the Flood, called “the sons of God” (Seth, Enos etc. down to Noah, Genesis 4:25-26; 5:6-32), married outside their faith to the women of the world “the daughters of men” (the descendants of Cain the rebel) then the wisdom they had was passed on to their children without the restraining power of the Spirit of life, and they (the children) began to be “mighty [forceful] men” like Nimrod after the Flood. 

For example: “And Cush [one of Ham’s descendants after the Flood] begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, ‘Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before [against] the LORD’.  And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel [aka Babylon], and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.  Out of that land went forth Asshur [he went forth to Assyria, margin], and built Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city”.  Genesis 10:8-12.

It was Nimrod (in conjunction with Satan) who thought of counting people by where they lived (populations, cities, nations etc.) instead of God’s way which is by families and tribes. It was masterstroke of genius, for he who controlled the land then controlled the people and became “mighty” in the world.  It was in Babel (Babylon) that the people built the tower in opposition to God.  Genesis 11:1-4.  It was Nimrod that pioneered the idea of using armies to conquer others, and developed the political systems, using patriotism (worship of nations) in place of worship of God.  That’s why “Babylon” is used in the Bible to indicate the opposition who fight God.  They use force as a “beast” would, while God’s people do not, as befits a Lamb.

The giants have had other names too as Moses tells us: “And the LORD said to me, ‘Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give you of their land for a possession; because I have given [the land of] Ar to the children of Lot for a possession’.  The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims” . . . And when You come nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give you of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession. (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims . . .”   Deuteronomy 2:9-21.

Moses also gives us the measurement of one giant’s bed!  The Israelites fought this man and his people and defeated them.  “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants [in that area]; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon?  Nine cubits [13.5ft] was the length thereof, and four cubits [6ft] the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man [18 inches]”.   Deuteronomy 3:11.  He could have been 12ft tall to need a bed that long.  Moses goes on to say, “And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I to the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants”. Deuteronomy 3:13.

Goliath and his brothers were also of the giant family.  Five hundred years after Moses, in David’s time, it is written, “And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span [10ft]”. 1 Samuel 17:4.  We know what happened to him!

“And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam [his name was Lahmi, 1 Chronicles 20:5].  And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimeah the brother of David slew him. These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants [followers]”.  2 Samuel 21:18-22.

 

Conclusion:

The Nephilim were giants, physically, mentally and morally, but they used their power in opposition to God and became His enemies.  Any union of church people and national people (church and state, marriage with unbelievers), at any time, will always be against God’s loving way of dealing with us, because such a coalition believes in forcing their views on others.


Who wants to add (or subtract!) from these thoughts? I won't argue as I have stated, but I will publish your Scriptures so that we may review all the words of God on the subject.

Next query. To be discussed from August 1st, 2009.

A big question next month!!!

Romans 2:

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law to themselves: 15 which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.   

Romans 3:

19 Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus . . . 27 Where is boasting then?  It is excluded.  By what law?  Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 

29 Is He the God of the Jews only?  Is He not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.   

 Why does Paul say that the "doers" will be justified in one place, and yet in another place say, "without the deeds of the law"?

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