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The French Revolution

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August 2015

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In this reply the old-fashioned words of the KJV have been modernised, and in some instances, the man-made punctuation has been altered for greater understanding.  Some of the comments are adapted from books in my library.  No recognition is given because they are not intended as authorities, but are used because they express my understanding clearly.  All the ideas expressed in this article, right or wrong, are my own.   


The query:

After progressing steadily through the Book of the Future from Revelation chapter 6:1 to chapter 10:11 during which the Son of God came with the open book of Daniel (1840-44) and we were told that we must give another warning to the world (the last verse), why does The Revelation of Jesus suddenly go back in history in chapter 11 and describe the French Revolution of 1793 – 1796 in verses 3-13, and then mention “the last trump” which heralds the Second Coming in verse 15? 

We have been told that Revelation 12 starts a new line of prophecy. 

“The line of prophecy in which these symbols [the beast, the image, and the mark] are found begins with Revelation 12, with the dragon that sought to destroy Christ at His birth.” {GC438.2} 

So this means that chapter 11 is the END of a line of prophecy.  Maybe this knowledge will help us unravel the mystery?




The response:

We should start with the understanding that the “book” being presented and unsealed in chapters 4-5 onwards, was actually a picture of the future being shown to John and other interested spectators from his time forward, which would unfold as the years went by.

Thus it is written:

Revelation 5:

13 And every [living] creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, “Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be to Him that sits upon the throne [God the Father], and to the Lamb for ever and ever”.

14 And the four beasts [four animal symbols, representing the saints who had been resurrected and taken to heaven with Jesus] said, “Amen”.  And the twenty-four elders [of that branch of the church] fell down and worshipped Him that lives for ever and ever.  

Chapter 6:

1 And I saw when the Lamb opened [the first] one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder [a sudden and loud noise], one of the four beasts [animals] saying, “Come and see” [Come and share with us].

This scene has two applications:

The first is set soon after the crucifixion and resurrection of the Son of man and involves Enoch, Moses, Elijah and the host of martyrs who were resurrected with Jesus, as well as John and his readers. 

Matthew 27:50-53:

Jesus, when He had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the [Holy] Ghost [3pm Friday afternoon].  And, behold, the [second] veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after His resurrection [on Sunday morning], and [some of them] went into the holy city, and appeared to many [during the next forty days]

They were resurrected from all over the world, not just from Jerusalem (we are told later), for the LORD has no favourites, and Jude quotes Enoch as telling us that there were to be 10,000 of them, a sizeable number! 

Jude 1:14-15:

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, “Behold, the LORD comes [at the second advent] with ten thousands of His saints [saints are not angels], to execute judgment upon all [who are alive on the earth], and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him”.   

And Paul confirms this by saying,

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13:

“And the LORD make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: to the end He may establish your hearts unblameable [not just your actions] in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ with all His saints [that are presently in heaven].

The text itself in The Revelation also tells us that the “four beasts” identify themselves as the redeemed from the earth.

Revelation 5:8-10:

And when He [the Son of God] had taken the book, the four beasts and the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the group] fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours [incense], which are the prayers of saints [sanctified humans]. And they sung a new song, saying, “You are worthy [capable] to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for You were slain [recent past tense], and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation [from all over the world]; and have made us [present tense] to our God kings and priests: and we shall reign [future tense] on the earth.

Through this we can see that there has been an organised branch of the church in heaven since the New Testament times began.  Why?  And how?  After the crucifixion large numbers of humans could be allowed to be in heaven because the angels now understood much more of what the Son of God was accomplishing.  Enoch, Moses and Elijah had been special cases who had shown much righteousness while living on earth, but the martyrs were from all areas and ages of the world, and in all stages of Christian development. 

{DA 758.2-3}

To the angels and the unfallen worlds the cry, “It is finished [spoken on the cross],” had a deep significance. It was for them as well as for us that the great work of redemption had been accomplished. They with us share the [first] fruits of Christ's victory. 

Not until the death of Christ was the character of Satan [as a would-be murderer] clearly revealed to the angels or to the unfallen worlds.
The archapostate had so clothed himself with deception that even holy beings had not understood his principles. They had not clearly seen the nature of his rebellion [before that].  

{DA 759.2} 

It was God's purpose to place things on an eternal basis of security, and in the councils of heaven it was decided that time must be given for Satan to develop the principles which were the foundation of his system of government. He had claimed that these were superior to God's principles. Time was given for the working of Satan's principles, that they might be seen by the heavenly universe. 

{DA 786.1-3} 

As Christ arose, He brought from the grave a multitude of captives.

The earthquake at His death had rent open their graves, and when He arose, they came forth with Him. They were those who had been co-laborers with God, and who at the cost of their lives [they had been martyrs] had borne testimony to the truth.

Now they were to be witnesses for Him who had raised them from the dead. 

During His ministry, Jesus had raised the dead to life. He had raised the son of the widow of Nain, and the ruler's daughter and Lazarus. But these were not clothed with immortality. After they were raised, they were still subject to [the first] death.

But those who came forth from the grave at Christ's resurrection were raised to everlasting life. They ascended with Him as trophies of His victory over death and the grave. These, said Christ, are no longer the captives of Satan;  I have redeemed them. I have brought them from the grave as the first fruits of My power, to be with Me where I am, nevermore to see death or experience sorrow. 

[Some of] these went into the city [during the 40 days between the resurrection  and the ascension], and appeared unto many, declaring, Christ has risen from the dead, and we be risen with Him. Thus was immortalized the sacred truth of the resurrection.

The risen saints bore witness to the truth of the words, “Thy dead men shall live, together with My dead body shall they arise.” Their resurrection was an illustration of the fulfillment of the prophecy, “Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.”  Isaiah 26:19. 


The other application:

The second fulfilment of this scene will be after the Second Coming, for then all the redeemed from the earth will gather in heaven during the 1,000 years, and the Book of The Future (which by then will have become the Book of History) will again be unsealed and the whole church will see the whole history of the great controversy from God’s point of view.  (It will be re-played after the Third Advent as well, for the benefit of the rebels.  GC666.3) 

But our query refers to the sudden change in sequence in the prophecy of Revelation chapter 11 just before the Second Advent, for it is at that point that this chapter will have its greatest fulfilment. 

After the events of 629AD - 1840 were revealed in the previous chapters, it is written, “And when the seven thunders [loud and menacing sounds] had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, ‘Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not’.”   Revelation 10:4.

So what had John heard, but not recorded?

{7BC 971.6} 

The special light given to John which was expressed in the seven thunders was a delineation [a step by step explanation] of events which would transpire under the first and second angels' messages [1840-44].  It was not best for the people to know these things [beforehand], for their faith must necessarily be tested [in the great disappointment]

[Then] in the order of God most wonderful and advanced truths would be proclaimed. 

The first and second angels' messages were to be proclaimed, but no further light was to be [or could be] revealed before these messages had done their specific work.

[They announced that God’s judgment of the dead whose names were written in the Lamb’s Book of Life had begun so that the Second Coming could soon take place, and that as the professed Christian churches had rejected that understanding, so it was time for God’s people to “Come out” of them completely!  Then, and then only, could the warning about the mark of the beast be given.] 

Revelation 10:

8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spoke to me again, and said, “Go and take the little book [of Daniel] which is open in the hand of the Angel which stands upon the sea and upon the earth”.

9 And I went to the Angel, and said to Him, “Give me the little book”.  And He said to me, “Take it, and eat it up [experience its prophecies]; and it shall make your belly bitter, but it shall be in your mouth sweet as honey. [You will like it at first, but then you will be greatly disappointed because I will not appear on earth on October 22, 1844]”.  

10 And I took the little book out of the Angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter [after having given the Midnight Cry of Matthew 25:6.]

11 And He said to me, “You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings” [You must repeat the three angels’ messages, with a loud cry of extra explanations.  GC 603.2].  

That need to repeat is why the next few verses in chapter 11 go back in time to the French Revolution which was still fresh in the minds of the Americans (it had happened only about 50 years previously).  As a nation they had had quite a bit to do with it in a helping way.  (That’s why that country has one of the statues of Liberty that were made in France to celebrate the uprising.  It was  a gift from the French Republic to the American one.)   

We are told about that period of history in some detail in the book The Great Controversy:

{GC 265.2 - 266.2} 

In the sixteenth century [1517 onwards] the Reformation, presenting an open Bible to the people, had sought admission to all the countries of Europe. Some nations welcomed it with gladness, as a messenger of Heaven.  In other lands the papacy succeeded to a great extent in preventing its entrance; and the light of Bible knowledge, with its elevating influences, was almost wholly excluded.

In one country [France], though the light found entrance, it was not comprehended by the darkness. For centuries, truth and error struggled for the mastery. At last the evil triumphed, and the truth of Heaven was thrust out. “This is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light.” John 3:19. The nation was [had to be] left to reap the results of the course which she had chosen. The restraint of God's Spirit was removed from a people that had despised the gift of His grace.  Evil was permitted to come to maturity. And all the world saw the fruit of willful rejection of the light. 

The war against the Bible, carried forward for so many centuries in France, culminated in the scenes of the Revolution. That terrible outbreaking was but the legitimate result of Rome's suppression of the Scriptures. (See Appendix [in GC].)

It presented the most striking illustration which the world has ever witnessed of the working out of the papal [Satan’s] policy -- an illustration of the results to which for more than a thousand years the teaching of the Roman Church had been tending. 

The suppression of the [truth of the] Scriptures during the period of papal supremacy was foretold by the prophets; and the Revelator points also to the terrible results that were to accrue especially to France from the domination of the “man of sin.” [Religious laws, death to the messengers etc.] 

Said the angel of the Lord: “The holy city [representing the true church of God] shall they tread underfoot forty and two months. And I will give power unto My two witnesses [the Old and the New Testaments], and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth [with sadness] . . . And when they shall have finished their testimony [are finishing, GC 268.3], the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit [Satan himself through worldly governments] shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them [make them of no effect]. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified [Great Babylon] . . . And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets [had] tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

And [yet] after three days and a half the Spirit of Life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.” Revelation 11:2-11. 

So why is this description here in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy?

The events of the very last days just before and after the close of probation for the world will be so terrible that there are no words that can be adequate to describe them, and they will finish in a disappointment for the followers of God which will be much greater than that of the disciples at the crucifixion!! 

So God used the events of the Reign of Terror of 1793-1796 in France to illustrate that time. [That which preceded the fall of a city – Jerusalem in 70AD;  that which preceded the fall of a nation – France in 1796;  are both used to show us what will happen in the last days of the fall of the world!] 

Because these events are out of time sequence in the prophecy He knew that some of His people would enquire of Him regarding that, and thus He would be able to prepare them a little for what must come.

In verses 1-2 of chapter 11 we are told to investigate carefully (measure with a strong rod - the Ten Commandments) where we are to put our earthly trust during the three and a half years of terror which is to come, and not to bother with the worldly churches at all. 

And then in verses 2 and 14 we are told that the third and last “woe” [the seven last plagues] will begin at the end of that time.

Revelation 11:

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe comes quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded [his trumpet – the LAST trump]; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever [probation has closed for all the world].

[“But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound (for it is a period covering the closes of probation around the world), the mystery of God (the giving of the gospel) should be finished, as He has declared to His servants the prophets”.  Revelation 10:7.]

16 And the twenty-four elders, which sat before God on their seats [having been there since just after the crucifixion], fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 saying, “We give You thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which are, and were, and are to come [the self-existent One]; because You have taken [back] to You Your great power, and have reigned [like You used to]”.

[Who are these elders?  “Then answered Peter and said to Him, ‘Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed You; what shall we have therefore?’ And Jesus said to them, ‘Verily I say to you, That you which have followed Me, in the regeneration (the new world) when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging (leading) the twelve tribes of [spiritual] Israel’.”  Matthew 19:27-28.

In eternity there will be twelve “elders” from the Old Testament times and twelve from the New in the world made new. 

Therefore the ones in this vision are temporary place-holders, like John the Baptist was for Jesus.] 

18 [They carry on] “And [all] the nations were angry [during the 3 years, for they are speaking at the end of that time of trouble], and Your wrath [the seven last plagues] is come, and the time of the [righteous] dead, that they should be judged [is finished], and [the time is near] that You should give reward to Your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear Your name, small and great [by resurrecting most and translating some]; and should destroy them which destroy the earth [as per Revelation 6:15-17].

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament [His throne, containing the Ten Commandments]: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail [the 7th plague].  (See note 1.)

But our Saviour knows just how we will feel during the Time of Jacob’s Trouble and the end of the world, so we have these words:

{3SP 88.1-2}

Then, looking with pitying love upon his little flock, so soon to be left without a shepherd, he sought to draw their minds from the perplexity into which his statements had thrown them, and said tenderly, “Let not your heart be troubled; ye believe in God, believe also in me.  In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.” 

With the deepest interest Jesus poured forth the burden of his soul in words of comfort, of counsel and prayer, which would ever remain imprinted on the minds and hearts of his disciples.

These words from the lips of the Saviour, traced by the inspired John in chapters fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen [of his gospel], were repeated again and again [afterwards] by the disciples to stay their sinking hearts in their great disappointment and trial.

Not until after the resurrection, however, were the words spoken upon this memorable occasion fully understood and appreciated. But the truths uttered by the Redeemer in that upper chamber have spread from the testimony of the disciples over all lands, and will live through all ages to comfort the hearts of the desponding, and give peace and hope to thousands who believe.

We should not forget that the disciples were gathered in the upper room on the Sunday night of the resurrection for fear of their church leaders!  John 20:19.

{8T 115.3-4}   See note 2.

Cannot we who are living in the time of the end realize the importance of the apostle's words: “Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God”?  Verse 12. [Hebrews 3:12.] 

Upon us is shining the accumulated light of past ages. The record of Israel's forgetfulness [rebellious neglect] has been preserved for our enlightenment [regarding our church].  In this age God has set His hand to gather unto Himself a people from every nation, kindred, and tongue.  

In the advent movement He has wrought for His heritage, even as He wrought for the Israelites in leading them from Egypt.

In the great disappointment of 1844 the faith of His people was tested as was that of the Hebrews at the Red Sea.  Had the Adventists in the early days still trusted to the guiding Hand that had been with them in their past experience, they would have seen of the salvation of God.

If all who had labored unitedly in the work of 1844 had received the third angel's message and proclaimed it in the power of the Holy Spirit, the Lord would have wrought mightily with their efforts. A flood of light would have been shed upon the world.

Years ago the inhabitants of the earth would have been warned, the closing work would have been completed, and Christ would have come for the redemption of His people. 

So He is waiting for us!!!

We must let Jesus have the last word:

Luke 18:

1 And He spoke a parable to them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint [give up at the last minute]; 2 saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: 

3 And there was a [defenceless] widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, “Avenge me of my adversary [give me justice]”. [As the remnant will cry to God at the end of time.] 

4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, “Though I fear not God, nor regard man; 5 yet because this widow troubles me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me” [he gives in because of her persistence].

6 And the LORD said, Hear what the unjust [non-Christian] judge says.

7 And shall not God [who is just and loving, the opposite of the worldly judge] avenge His own elect, which cry day and night to Him [over a period of time before the Second Advent], though He bear long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them [as] speedily [as He can, for He and I love them].

Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall He find [persistent] faith [like the widow’s] on the earth? 



From what we have just read, we should have come to the conclusion that the last days for God’s people on earth just before the Second Coming will be somewhat like (but much more intense and world-wide), as it was during the French Revolution and its Reign of Terror, when aristocrats, religious leaders, and even some of the early influential originators of the Revolution were guillotined while old women knitted and gossiped!

The “disappointment” that we will have to go through then will be even more than that of the disciples at the cross. It will appear that God has lost all in the Great Controversy, and of this we have been fore-warned. 

But the true followers of the LORD will need to be more persistent and determined than those who stood at the foot of the cross if we are to live through it. 




Note 1:

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{GC 636.2 -  GC 640.2} 

It is at midnight that God manifests His power for the deliverance of His people.  The sun appears, shining in its strength.  Signs and wonders follow in quick succession.  The wicked look with terror and amazement upon the scene, while the [living] righteous behold with solemn joy the tokens of their deliverance.  Everything in nature seems turned out of its course.  The streams cease to flow.  Dark, heavy clouds come up and clash against each other.  In the midst of the angry heavens is one clear space of indescribable glory, whence comes the voice of God like the sound of many waters, saying: “It is done.” Revelation 16:17.  {GC 636.2} 

That voice shakes the heavens and the earth.

There is a mighty earthquake, “such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.” Verses 17, 18.  The firmament appears to open and shut.  The glory from the throne of God seems flashing through.  The mountains shake like a reed in the wind, and ragged rocks are scattered on every side.  There is a roar as of a coming tempest.  The sea is lashed into fury.  There is heard the shriek of a hurricane like the voice of demons upon a mission of destruction.  The whole earth heaves and swells like the waves of the sea.  Its surface is breaking up.  Its very foundations seem to be giving way.  Mountain chains are sinking.  Inhabited islands disappear.  The seaports that have become like Sodom for wickedness are swallowed up by the angry waters.  Babylon the great has come in remembrance before God, “to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.” Great hailstones, every one “about the weight of a talent,” are doing their work of destruction.  Verses 19, 21 .  .  . 

 . . .  the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side.  The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar.  Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together.  Says the prophet: “The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself.” Psalm 50:6.  That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment.  The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue [the Ten Commandments], traced as with a pen of fire.  The words are so plain that all can read them.  Memory is aroused, the darkness of superstition and heresy is swept from every mind, and God's ten words, brief, comprehensive, and authoritative, are presented to the view of all the inhabitants of the earth.  {GC 639.1}  .  .  . 

The voice of God is heard from heaven, declaring the day and hour of Jesus' coming, and delivering [speaking] the everlasting covenant [the Ten Commandments] to His people.  Like peals of loudest thunder His words roll through the earth {GC 640.2}  .  .  .  BACK

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Note 2:

The reason for the

Testimonies of Volume Eight


The Trustees of her writings.


These are not EGW’s words

and the upper case original font has been replaced by a lower case. 

All the emphasis has been added by me –

also some sentences have been separated for extra emphasis.


These words appear on the 2008 EGW disk, but by the 1941 edition of the printed book they had disappeared!

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{8T pp5-8}

The Times of Volume Eight

Volume 8 was published to meet a crisis -- the greatest crisis which the Seventh-day Adventist church has ever faced.  The urgency of the matter is evidenced in that the book came from the press in March, 1904, [only] fifteen months after volume 7 was published.

At the time of its issuance it was not known how the tide would turn.  Today (?) we can look back and see that its steadying instruction was a large factor in averting threatened disaster.

While the work of the denomination was reaching out to encompass the world, and while there had been a reorganization of the General Conference which made a rapid yet sound growth possible [in 1901, but most of that only lasted for about two years] developments in our old headquarters city of Battle Creek, Michigan, took shape which, if they had been unchecked, would have led to the destruction of the very foundations of Seventh day Adventist faith.

It all came about in such a subtle way that its hazards were not detected at the outset, for error was presenting itself under the garb of “new light.”

Near the turn of the century, certain of the workers of the denomination, and especially the leader in the medical missionary interests [Dr. J. H. Kellogg], espoused certain teachings concerning the personality of God which were quite out of harmony with the clear teachings of the word of God and the positions of the church. Yet these teachings were set forth as an advancement in the understanding of the message, the general acceptance of which would, it was claimed, bring a glorious experience to the people of God and would hasten the finishing of the work. [Ellen White called it the “alpha” of apostacy.  1SM 200.1-2. See note 3.]

These pantheistic views envisioned God not as a great personal Being ruling the universe, but rather as a power, a force, seen and felt in nature and pervading the very atmosphere.  Confusing the power of God with His personality, they saw God in the sunshine, in the flower, in the grass, in the tree, and in their fellow human beings. [This is called “Pantheism”  or “God everywhere”.]

[From Wikipedia.

Pantheism is the belief that the Universe (or Nature as the totality of everything)

is identical with divinity”.]

These strange but entrancing views were publicly presented at one General Conference session, they were freely advocated in Battle Creek college, and were presented again and again in the Battle Creek sanitarium.  At length this “new light” became a topic of discussion when Seventh-day Adventist workers gathered informally or for seasons of counsel.  While it was a matter of deep concern to the leaders of the church, their efforts to check these pantheistic teachings seemed almost wholly ineffective.

Through the winter of 1902-03 the movement gained momentum.  Then the problem became acute with the publication of a book [by Kellogg] on physiology and hygiene written in popular style, in which the leading physician of the denomination set forth these views in a subtle way.  The book [The Living Temple] was issued for wide sale by Seventh-day Adventists to aid in securing funds for the rebuilding of the Battle Creek sanitarium.

It seemed to the leaders of the church that the crisis would most surely be reached at the General Conference session held in the spring [May] of 1903, when they hoped Mrs. White would deal clearly with the matter.  But each time she spoke she seemed to be restrained and presented a message calling for unity in the work and the need of pressing together in interest.  When the General Conference session closed, the issue was still not met. [Why?]

A few months later, in the autumn [October] of 1903, Mrs. White was instructed in vision to meet promptly and squarely the pantheistic doctrines and to point out the dangers of the accompanying speculative and spiritistic teachings.  Communications dispatched by her from California reached the brethren in autumn council session in Washington, D. C., at the peak of the crisis.
All could now see that God was guiding and guarding His work, and in the light of the Spirit of Prophecy messages nearly all took their stand on the side of truth.

In the field, however, there was perplexity, uncertainty, and confusion.

Testimonies for the church, volume 8, bore a message on this matter which in certain terms defined the truth and thus left the error to stand out in bold contrast. The crisis was met, and the church was saved. No human power alone could have preserved the church in this crisis.

Besides this paramount doctrinal controversy, there were other church issues in the times of volume 8. 

Only a few weeks after volume 7 had come from the press, with its message of counsel regarding the work being done in our publishing houses, the factory of the Review and Herald Publishing Association was destroyed by fire.  This was the second great disaster in Battle Creek and followed the sanitarium fire by less than eleven months. [God could not protect them any longer.]

There were problems incident to this loss much greater than that of replacing destroyed property.  For years the Spirit of Prophecy counsels had called for a dispersion of believers from Battle Creek and the establishment of sanitarium, educational, and publishing interests elsewhere. 

Our people had been urged not to congregate in large numbers at the headquarters of the work.  It was in response to these counsels that the old Battle Creek college had been moved to the country location of Berrien Springs, Michigan.  Now with the manufacturing plant of the Review and Herald destroyed by fire, it seemed to the leaders to be a propitious time to relocate the work of the publishing house at some other point, and appropriate steps were taken in that direction.

From the outset the General Conference headquarters had been located near the Review and Herald office. [To the leaders of the church] the two seemed inseparable.  Any plan to move one would involve the other.  In response to guidance through the Spirit of Prophecy, suitable locations were sought, and finally, in the suburbs of Washington, D. C., the nation's capital, acceptable properties were found, and the work of the publishing house and the General Conference offices were moved to that center in August, 1903.

To help Seventh-day Adventists understand the background of the cause of the disaster which wiped out the publishing house, and the need of re-establishing the work on a new basis and in a new location, “Counsels Often Repeated” were set forth in volume 8.

These issues, involving our medical work, our publishing work, and the very doctrines of the church, were large and could easily divert the attention of our people around the world from the main task before us -- that of carrying the everlasting gospel to all the world.  Even though volume 8 was issued primarily to meet these crises, and to make the correct course forever clear to Seventh-day Adventists, Ellen White made a positive approach [not negative].

The book opens, not with a picture of the problems confronting us, but rather with the section entitled “Present Opportunities” in which “Our Work” is set forth in appealing terms. Then follow chapters on “The Commission,” “The Power Promised,” and views of our responsibilities at home and abroad, with special mention of “The Work in Europe.” 

How it would have pleased the great enemy of truth if the minds and thoughts of the people of God could have been turned from the great unfinished task by speculations regarding the Godhead, by fanaticism, or by confused ideas of organization. But God's people were not to be diverted from their work of enlightening the world. With their eyes on the work, advance moves were made.

True, some lost their way in the crisis of 1902-03. 

Certain institutional properties were lost to the denomination; but, rather than retarding the work, the crisis marked the opening of great aggressive movements. The warnings of the section “Be on Guard” and the clear delineation of truth in the group of chapters on “The Essential Knowledge” will ever serve to keep the church from misleading teachings, and the other counsels of volume 8 will be of benefit to the end of time.

The Trustees of the                       Edition date unknown.

Ellen G. White publications.   BACK



Note 3:

Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet – Omega is the last. [A-Z in English]

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{1SM 197.4} 

Be not deceived; many will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.  We have now before us the alpha of this danger.

The omega will be of a most startling nature.   BACK

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When the Papacy arose in Europe it removed three of the ten horns (the nations of Europe) which were on the head of the beast at that time (about 508-538AD).  They are described as being “plucked up by the roots” in Daniel 7:8 which means in gardening terms that they were totally removed from the scene. 

Then, AFTER the Papacy had ruled for 1,260 years as a leg of iron from 538AD to 1798 we have as the last participants in world history, two feet and ten toes containing the new ingredient, clay.  Daniel 2:42-44.

How then can we say that the ten “horns” of Daniel 7 which became SEVEN BEFORE the Papacy ruled, can be the same as the TEN toes which come AFTER its reign?


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