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Dinosaurs and their end.

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July 2006

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Query:

This month we have a series of questions, all related to the same answer.

Where did dinosaurs come from?  One of the latest fossil finds has finger bones and is hailed as a missing link between sea and land animals. 

          Were they wiped out by an asteroid?

           Was T Rex a bird?

 

 Answer:

One thing we should notice is that the scientists who tell us about these gigantic creatures do not always agree within themselves.  (Actually most of the dinosaurs were quite small, with the average about the size of a turkey, but that is not often emphasised.) There is the evidence of large bones etc. but only a theory with which to explain them.  There are some among the palaeontologists who think that T rex was actually a bird like the ostrich or moa, and that it could run quite fast.  They point to features of the bones that are overlooked by their compatriots as proof of this.  It is also a fact that many varieties of dinosaurs are found in eggs in nests, around 2,000 on one site, I read.  (Crocodiles still hatch from eggs.)

If we also take into account that fact that fossils are dated by the type of earth layer they are found in, and that the geologist who dates the layers does so because of the fossils which are found there, we can stand amazed, for this is circular reasoning and has no place in serious study, yet it goes on all the time.  It’s the same with the “missing link” situation.  Not one has ever been found that reliably points to one species changing into another.  Those which are hailed as evidence are usually discounted within a short time.

Here is probably a good place to think about the story that dinosaurs were supposedly wiped out by a large asteroid hitting the earth 65 million years ago! If we discount that evolutionary theory (which is simply an idea and not a fact), and realise that species are going extinct all the time, some due to circumstances and others because of man’s intervention, but all as a result of sin, we can come to a different conclusion.

Let’s look at the situation from the Bible angle.

Since the creation, there have been many amalgamations, or mutations, of creatures, as may be seen today in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and also in the range of races of men. These have been caused by the degeneration and inbreeding which has taken place since the Flood.  Humans started from that event with a gene pool of only six individuals, Noah’s sons and their wives, and look at our variety today. Tradition tells us that their descendants eventually separated, Ham and his people going south into what is now Africa, and Japheth going north into Europe. Seth’s line remained in what we call the Middle East.

The genetic pools of all creatures allow for many variations by natural selection, especially when inbreeding occurs, but there are limits.  What confuses us is that many scientists insist on a large variety of species which most of us would not consider sensible.  At one time it was suggested that the white ibis of north America would not mate with the pink ibis of south America because they were considered different species!  

So what about the “cave-men”?  Footprints belonging to very large humans have been found side-by-side with the tracks of dinosaurs, but are largely ignored by those who believe in a world ruled by dinosaurs.   But large humans help to bring the large dinosaurs down to scale. 

This is in line with the text, “There were giants in the earth in those days . . .”  Genesis 6:4.  They were still being reported centuries after the Flood although probably not as tall as their pre-Flood brethren.  The spies which searched out the land before entering Canaan “ . . .  brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched to the children of Israel, saying, ‘The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eats up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight’.”  Numbers 13:32-33.

Moses reported, “And the LORD said to me, ‘ . . . I have given Ar to the children of Lot for a possession.’  The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.”  Deuteronomy  2:9-11.  And remember, David fought with Goliath, who came from a giant family. (He was about 9 ft tall.)

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2 Samuel 21:

18 And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.

19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. 21 And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimeah the brother of David slew him.

22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.

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Despite the wickedness of the pre-Flood world, that age was not, as has often been supposed, an era of ignorance and barbarism. God says our species is NOT evolving upward, but falling consistently downward in moving away from Him! The people were originally gifted with the opportunity of reaching a high standard of moral and intellectual attainment, and this was only diminished, not removed, by Adam’s sin. They still possessed great physical and mental strength, and their advantages for acquiring both religious and scientific knowledge were unrivaled.

So what are popularly known as “cave men” or “stone-age men” came into existence directly after the Flood when conditions on earth were greatly different. It took time then for the inhabitants of the earth to grow in numbers and replenish the earth and build up civilisations, so some of them lived rather primitively.  There are some still living that way after many centuries of civilisation!  The natives of Papua/New Guinea, for instance.  (The Maoris of New Zealand had no metal until the Europeans arrived in the 1800’s.) 

Humanity also suffered great physical decline as the record of the ages at the birth of their firstborn, and the length of their lives from Shem to Abraham, shows.  See Genesis 11:10-26.  Abraham was the last of the long-lived ones, dying at 175 years of age. Genesis 25:7-8.

It is also a mistake to suppose that because the pre-Flood people lived to a great age their minds matured late. Their mental powers were early developed according to God’s original plan, and those who cherished the fear of God and lived in harmony with His will continued to increase in knowledge and wisdom throughout their life.

Could the great teachers of our time be placed in contrast with men of the same age who lived before the Flood, they would appear as greatly inferior in mental as in physical strength. As the years of men and women have decreased, physical strength has diminished with it, and our mental capacities have lessened. There are men and women who now apply themselves to study during a period of from twenty to fifty years, and the world is filled with admiration of their attainments. But how limited are these acquirements in comparison with those of men whose mental and physical powers were developing for centuries!

And so far from being an era of religious darkness, that was an age of great light. All the world had opportunity to receive instruction from Adam for nearly 1,000 years, and those who respected the LORD had also Christ and angels for their teachers. And they had a silent witness to the truth, in the garden of God, which for so many centuries remained clearly visible among them.

Let’s now consider the event of the Flood.

Every species of animals which the Son of God had created was preserved in the ark. The confused species that He did not create, which were the result of mutations, natural and manmade, were destroyed by the flood because they were not obedient to His request to board the ark. Their bones, and the way they are scattered in the earth, bear mute testimony to that.  In some places they are metres thick.  Today most of the world’s supply of ivory comes from the mammoths which are regularly dug up in Siberia during the summer thaws.  Thousands of these animals perished suddenly (some with grass still in their mouths) and their bodies were so quick frozen that we can still see the hairs on their skin.  The bodies of other species are often found with them also.

Put simply, it was Noah’s obedience that saved him.

He did what he was told and therefore was safely in the ark when the Flood came. “And the LORD said to Noah, Come you and all your house into the ark; for you have I seen righteous [obedient] before Me in this generation.” Genesis 7:1.

The members of his family were also physically saved because they followed him. And did you notice that the animals did too? Noah did not have to round them up. Angels went out to every animal and “asked” them to be saved, then led them two by two to the ark, which in itself was a marvellous sign to the unbelievers.

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Genesis 7:

7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.

8 [Then] of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creeps upon the earth, 9 there went in two and two to Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

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So Noah was already there when the obedient animals arrived.

So, rather than dying as a result of an asteroid 65 million years ago, they, like the multitudes of humans who lived at the time, 1,656 years after Adam’s creation, perished because the Son of God could not longer protect the planet from the result of human behaviour. 

Conclusion:

Dinosaurs (large lizards) lived before the Flood and were mostly the product of cross-breeding by the people of the day.  Because of their make-up, many of them were rogue animals (rebels) which made for good hunting (like lions and tigers), while others were just good eating.  But they all refused the offer made by the Son of God and therefore perished in the waters of the Flood. 

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Who wants to add (or subtract!) from these thoughts? I won't argue as I have stated, but I will publish your Scriptures so that we may review all the words of God on the subject.
Some of the comments on this page are adapted from books in my library.  No recognition is given because they are not intended as authorities, but are used because they express my understanding clearly.
Next query. To be discussed from August 1st, 2006.

1 Corinthians 2:

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual [Bible verses with Bible verses].

14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judges [understands] all things, yet he himself is judged [understood] of no man. 16 For who has known the mind of the LORD, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ [for understanding].

Philippians 2:

3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men. 

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