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Query for the Month

of August 2000

 

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Query:

Romans 7:25

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

What nature does a reborn person have and what happens to the old, sinful nature?

 

Response:

My understanding of a Christian is this:

Adam and Eve were created with a SINLESS internal nature, or character, and an external human (physical) one. In God’s eyes they were perfect and capable of obedience.

Genesis 1:31

And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was VERY GOOD."

However, as a result of their leap into sin which changed their characters permanently, each one of their descendants has been born with an internal SINFUL nature, as well as an earthly or human external nature. As a result, ordinary humans cannot help sinning no matter how hard they try, for the internal nature controls them. Consider how Cain and Abel behaved.

What Christ does for the helpless sinner is take away the internal sinful nature and replace it with a portion of His life, thereby effectively putting us back into Adam’s place. But then we stand as Christians, dependent on Christ’s righteousness for justification, and His power for sanctification. We still have our external physical human nature, which means that we get tired, hungry etc. just as sinners do, and we need guidance by the Spirit to follow the "way", but our internal nature now, like that of the top Christian, is inclined to do God’s will.

We still have freewill and must choose. But we don't have to choose sin!!! The word in Romans 6:13-16 is "yield" or, "give up willingly" to righteousness just as Jesus did in the following quote.

 

Hebrews 10:5-10

Wherefore when He came into the world, He said, "Sacrifice and offering You would not [did not desire], but a body have You prepared Me: in [animal] burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have had no pleasure." [I wonder why?]

"Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Your will, O God."

Above [before] when He said, "Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin You would not, neither had pleasure therein"; which are offered by the law; then said He, "Lo, I come to do your will, O God."

[Therefore] He takes away the first [the animal sacrifices], that He may establish the second [the doing of God’s will]. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This external physical human nature is what Christ took when He became our brother. He did not have the internal sinful nature of the sinner, but His own sinless one which He shares with Christians. In this He was the second Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45. And, like all Christians, He had to choose when it came to obedience.

Hebrews 2:11-12

For both He that sanctifies and they who are sanctified are all of one [origin]: for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters, saying, "I will declare Your name to My brothers and sisters, in the midst of the church will I sing praise to You."

This is what makes Christians "aliens" in this world. We are a different race by re-creation!!

It is written of Jesus that He said:-

Psalm 69:8-9

I am become a stranger to My [physical] brothers and sisters, and an alien to My mother's children. For the zeal of Your house has eaten Me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached You are fallen upon Me. [See John 2:17.]

Then it is said of Christians:

Ephesians 2:10-17

For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to [do] good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them.

Wherefore remember, that you being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called "Uncircumcision" by that which is called the "Circumcision" in the flesh made by hands [on earth]; that at that time you were without Christ, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: but now in Christ Jesus you who sometimes were far off are made near by the blood [sacrifice] of Christ.

For He is our peace, who has made both [into] one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us; having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of two one new man, so making peace;

And that He might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: and came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were near.

Romans 6:5-7

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection: knowing this, that our "old man" is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth [from that moment on] we should not serve sin. For he that is "dead" is freed from [the power of] sin.

Ephesians 4:17-32

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: who being past feeling have given themselves over to lasciviousness [obscenities], to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But you have not so learned Christ;

If so be that you have heard Him, and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off concerning the former conversation [conduct] the "old man", which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; [Romans 12:1-2] and that you put on the "new man", which after [or by] God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Wherefore [because of this] putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another [we, as Christians, are all the same family]. Be you angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: neither give place to the devil.

Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needs. Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying [teaching], that it may minister grace to the hearers. And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby you are sealed to the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: and be you kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you.

 

So Christians do not HAVE TO SIN.

Sinners do not have that choice.

And that’s why Christians and sinners are different, yet the same. Both share in a common human nature, or external physical body, but the nature within is quite different. Christ takes to Himself the internal sinful nature of all sinners as they become Christians and then He carries that burden as the Sin-bearer. That's His eternal sacrifice made from "the foundation of the world". Revelation 13:8.

Both Christians and sinners perform the actions of sin, but the Christian must CHOOSE TO DO SO against the advice of the Spirit, and against the power offered to save him or her [1 Corinthians 13:10], while the others have no choice in the matter – they keep "falling" no matter how hard they try. That’s why we need a Creator God and not an evolutionist one.

The difference between Christian and sinner is the matter of CHOICE. Christians KNOW that they do not have to sin.

Psalm 4:3-4

But know that the LORD has set apart him that is godly for Himself: the LORD will hear when I call to Him [and save me from the temptation BEFORE I sin]. Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.

1 Corinthians 15:34

Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 John 2:1-6

My little children, these things write I to you, that you sin not. And [but] if any [Christian] man [or woman] sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world [He is not selective].

And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He that says, "I know him", and keeps not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keeps His word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby [in this way] know we that we are in Him.

He that says he abides in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.

1 John 3:18-22

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby [in this way] we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

 

Conclusion:

Saint or sinner?:

We may KNOW who we are by what we do!!! We who were once sinners by internal nature are now Christians by re-creation, and must reject God's advice and power if we want to sin. Those who keep "falling" (that's their word for it, for Adam "jumped"), and who make excuses for their behaviour, are showing that they have no power of choice.

Jude v24-25

Now to Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen.


Who wants to add (or subtract!) from these thoughts? I won't argue as I have stated, but I will publish your Scriptures so that we may review all the words of God on the subject.

 

Spiritual Dictionary:

Saint or sinner?:

We may KNOW who we are by what we do!!! We who were once sinners by internal nature are now Christians by re-creation, and must reject God's advice and power if we want to sin. Those who keep "falling" (that's their word for it, for Adam "jumped"), and who make excuses for their behaviour, are showing that they have no power of choice.

Jude v24-25

Now to Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen.

 


Next thought. To be discussed from September 1st 2000.

Luke 23:42-43

And he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom." And Jesus said to him, "Verily I say to you, Today shall you be with Me in paradise."

What do these words mean?

 


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